WATERFORD COUNTY ELECTION.
RETURN to an Order of the Honourable The House of Commons,
dated 12 March 1867
COPY of the Depositions taken before the Coroner at the Inquests
held at Dungarvan, in the month of January last, on the Bodies of William
O’Brien and Bartholomew Kelly, killed at the last Waterford County
Erection. ”
COPIES of Inquisition and Depositions on the Body of William O’Brien.
County of Waterford, to Wit.
An Inquisition, indented and taken for our Sovereign Lady the Queen, at Dungarvan
Workhouse, in the parish of Dungarvan, in the County of Waterford, on the thirty-first day
of December, in the thirtieth year of the reign of our Sovereign Lady Victoria, by the grace
of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen, Defender of the Faith,
and so forth, and in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and sixty-six, before
Henry Thomas Dennehy, one of the Coroners of our said Lady the Queen, for the said
County, on view of the body of William O’Brien, then and there lying dead, upon the
oaths of —
1. John Williams,
2. Patrick Williams,
3. Patrick Ronayne,
4. Thomas Dee,
5. William Ryan,
6. Declan Ilannigan,
7. Thomas Cavanagh.
8. Richard Whelan,
9. James Wall,
10. George Fitzraaurice,
11. Patrick Flynn,
12. James Muihall,
13. Thomas Armstrong,
14. Maurice Keaue,
15. Michael Organ,
16. Thomas Gleeson,
17. Patrick Walsh,
18. Edmond Walsh,
19. Michael Walsh,
20. Edward Shaw,
good and lawful men of the said County, duly chosen, and who being then and there
duly sworn, and charged to inquire for our said Sovereign Lady the Queen, when, how,
and by what, means the said William O’Brien came to his death, do upon their oaths, say
that the said deceased William O’Brien came by his death by the blow of a lance, or other
injuries inflicted by one of sixteen lanceis of the 12th Regiment of Lancers, who unlaw-
fully charged on the people down the quay, on the 29th December 1866 ; four of whom
are named Serjeant Majors Woolly, Browne, Shannon, and Aicheson. We think it right
to add that we hold the conduct of Major Wombwell blameless on the occasion.
In witness whereof, as well the said coroner as the jurors aforesaid, have hereunto set
subscribed their hands and seals, the day
and year first above written :
1. John Williams
(seal).
10. Thomas Armstrong-
(seal).
2. Patrick Williams
(seal).
11. Maurice Keane
(seal).
3. Patrick Ronayne
(seal).
12. Michael Organ
(seal).
4. Thomas Dee
(seal.)
13. Thomas Gleeson
(seal).
5. William Ryan
(seal).
14. Patrick Walsh
(seal).
6. Declan Hannigan
(seal).
15. Edmond Walsh
(seal).
7. Thomas Kavanagh
(seal).
16. Michael Walsh
(seal).
8. Patrick Flynn
(seal).
17. Edward Shaw
(seal).
9. James Muihall
(seal)..
Henry Thos. Dennehy,
Coroner.
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DEPOSITIONS'.
County of Waterford, to wit.
Thk Deposition of John Malay, of Abl.ejside, a labourer, who being first duly sworn,
deposes and says : —
On Saturday last, the 29th of December 1866, I was down on the quay, about one or
two o’clock, I saw the deceased, William O’Biien before me, about eight or nine perches,
running to an enclosure opposite the Cobbler’s sheds. Before he ran, two of the Lancers
salloped past him, and as he was running to the inclosuve, a third Lancer came up and
struck him with the butt of the lance in the poll, and tumbled him ; the horse then passed
over him, hut I ( sm’t say whether he touched him. Three more horses came mi and passed
over him. I at once ran to take the deceased, William O’Brien, up, and while doing so,
the same Lancer who knocked down the deceased, rode back quite close to tue. I heard
anotl e: Lanc-.i bawl to him, but I can’t tell vvliat he said. He (the Lancer who struck the
deceased} pulled up and went away. I then, with the assistance of Captain Dower (a sea
captain), took the deceased into the shed. Captain Dower ordered me to go for the priest,
which I did, and brought him; Captain Dower remained with the deceased, William
O’Biien, when I was leaving. When I returned with the priest, Doctor Anthony was with
the dt ceased, William O’Brien. In about an hour alter, he was removed to the workhouse;
I font home word to his people that he was killed; 1 saw the deceased dead in the work-
house on Monday last, the 31st December 1866.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — When first I saw the deceased, William O’Brien, he
was standing by himself, half way between Mrs. Curreen’s coal-yard and Mr. Kielv’s house ;
tbeie was some row going on on the bridge, beiween the Lancers and the people, at the
time. 1 was some ten or twelve perches away from the crowd, and the deceased was
farther away from them than I was. It was between one and two o’clock. The crowd did
not extend clown the quay to where O’Brien and I stood. I saw no stones or stick in
O’Brien’s hands, neither did I see him stoop for any ; 1 will not swear that he might not have
them in his pocket; I can’t swear whether the deceased had had stones in his hands or
not; but to the best of my belief, he bad not. 1 was at home for about three hours, at ten,
eleven, and twelve. At the time of the row on the bridge, I heard people say it was the
voters were coming in, and the Lancers were making way for them. I can’t say whether
there were twenty or a thousand coming down the quay. I saw no sticks or stones with
those people. 1 will not swear they had not them. I can’t say whether there were a
hundred toming down the quay. I can’t tell whether any of the crowd that were coming
up at the bridge reached to wheie O’Brien and I were standing at the lime O’Brien was
knocked down. The boat I tried to get into Ivan a good many men in it; but 1 cannot say
from one to fifty, how many were iu ii. I was not iu a public house on that clay up to two
o'clock, and some of the drink 1 got was in Mrs. O’Neill’s yard ; I saw it posted up that
Mis. O’Neill’s yard was a place for Mr. De La Poor’s voters. It was a mistake when I
said I was not in a public house on that day before two o’clock.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — The people were running down the quay, and the
soldiers chasing them bofi.re O’Brien was killed. I saw none of the people escaping into
the vessels, they weie too far from the quay. The deceased, William O’Brien, was stand-
ing at the waterside, two of the soldiers passed him, and he then made an attempt to run
into the Linney. I think it would be a hard job to know the. soldier; he was a foxy com-
plexion man. He charged back to me, and I put the dead man beiween me and the horse,
to protect myself from the horse, and to allow the horse to pass me. They galloped on
below Mr. Kiely’s house. I saw some of the soldiers follow the people into the root market.
I did not see the soldiers use their lances in the market. At the time the soldiers chased
the people into the maiket, I saw no stones thrown, as far as I could see. To the besi of
my belief the Lancer was not soter. The horse he rode was a dark brown horse.
• ' his
John x Malay.
. mark.
Informant is hound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 7th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Augustine Dower, of Dungarvan, a Sea Captain, who being first
duly sworn, deposes, and says
I was on^ board the “Johanna” on Saturday, the 29th December 1866, opposite
Mrs. Curran’s coal-yard in Dungarvan. The vessel lay between the root market and
the
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the ' bridge, and the vessel was the nearest to the bridge. The vessel lav about
200 feet from the bridge. 1 was on board the vessel when I saw the Lancers run
down towards the quay. Before that there were a good m-my on the quay ; I can’t
say how many. They were doiug nothing as I saw. I saw no stones thrown by them nor
in their hands. They (the soldiers) were galloping down the quay, with their lances drawn.
I saw the soldiers run down the quay, and the people ran for their lives on board my vessel!
The vessel was chock full on the deck. I did not see the soldiers use their lances on the
quay. I did not see the people doing anything' to the soldiers. I did not see the deceased
on that day on the quay until I saw him falling. The deceased was farther away from the
bridge than my vessel about 10 yards. I s iw nothing done to the deceased O’Brien bv
anybody. I saw a horseman near him ; 1 would not know either the man or his horse
again. I did not ree the horseman do anything to the deceased man. The first I saw of
the deceased on that day was seeing him fall forward. There was n horseman near him
when he fell, and he had the lance in his hand. The Lancer was near enough to strike
him, but the deceased was down. When the deceased O’Brien was in the act of falling
the Lancer was near enough to strike him. I saw more than five Lancers on the quay
besides this Lancer 1 speak of. When I got my vessel full of people, 1 slacked the chain
to let the vessel oul, so that the Lancers would not get alongside to injure any person on
board. The Lancers were using their lances in their hands, having them ready for order.
I did not see the lances pointed at the people. After O’Brien fell 1 can’t say where the
Lancer went to ; I was occupied in taking a man out of the water who had jumped over
the quay io avoid being struck by a Lancer. I took the man out of the water, and I called '
■out. “Is there no man to pick the deceased O’Brien up?” I could see no Lancers on the
quay then. 1 was the first to take up the deceased O’Brien, and I was assisted by John
Malay; I did not see the Lancer return while Malay and l had the deceased ; we brought
him into the Linney. I can’t say whether Malay took deceased up before me; I did not
see him. - About seven minutes elapsed afier O’Brien fell until I picked him no. I <aw no
Lancers when I came out on the quay about the root market. I remained with O’Brien
until the prie-t and doctor came; he was unable to speak. I saw no stones thrown before
O’Brien fell ; they could be thrown without my seeing them.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — Three vessels lay between Captain Kiely’s house
and the quay; mine was the centre vessel. There were a great many people besides the
crews in these three vessels. For about half an hour before O’Brien was hurt, saw a crowd
of people between the bridge and my vessel; I cannot soy whether there were 500 there.
There were no persons on board the vessels until the Lancers gave rapid way to their horses,
and then they van for their lives on board the vessels. I saw no stones with any of tlte
people on board the vessels, nor sticks either. I saw O’Brien fill before 1 knew the man
was in the water; and when I saw him fall I saw no person injure him or trample on him.
1 was looking at O’Brien afier he fell for about two minutes, when 1 heard of the man
being in the water ; during those two minutes nobody trampled on him or injured him.
O’Brien fell on his left temple. After I took the man out of the water, O’Brien’s position
was altered by about one foot, and I saw the marks on the mud as if he had been dragged ;
I did not observe this until I stood over him; he was lying by himself. I called out to
heave in the chain to get the boat nearer the quay, which was dune, and I got up to the
mam Heaving in the chain took only two or three minutes ; during this time no person
came tu the assistance of the deceased. I raised the deceased, and called out for assistance,
and in a minute Malay came up; Malay and I placed the deceased in a place of shelter,
and nobody interfered with us while we were doing so. Duriug the time the man was in
the water the deceased might have been picked up by somebody.
Augustine Dower.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 7th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Denne/iy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Robert R. Kennedy, at Ballinamultina, a Magistrate of the County,
who, being first duly sworn, deposed and s tys : —
I Was inDungarvan on Saturday, the 29ih day of December last, the day of the polling.
About two o’clock, or between one and two, I was in the house of my friend, Mr. Dwyer.
I be house is nearer to the bridge than the Court-house, and on the opposite side from the
Court-house, and looks down on the bridge and -a portion of the quay. I was at one of the
front windows of the house. I saw a number of men walking over the bridge, escorted by
troops. There were troops on each side and preceding them, and some Lancers in the rear.
The whole of the voters passed up, and I lost sight of them. While the voters and troops
passed in my view, they were not molested. My attention was fixed on them while they
were passing. After the voters and escort had passed, I saw the rear-guard turn back and
divide into two parties. No stone or missile had been thrown at the cavalry before the
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cavalry charged on the people. I saw one portion of the party charge the people down
the quay, as far as the Court-house would admit of my seeing. The horses were
ga loping. The lances were levelled. My notice was directed to one lad trying to ascend
th t parapet wall between the bridge and the quay ; he might have been 12 or he might
have been 14. He reached the parapet of the bridge, but he fell down again. He made
an effort to re-ascend the parapet, and while doing so, I saw him pierced with the point end
of the lance. When the people had been charged, I saw one Lancer follow the people
inside the railing, near the new building or bank, and use the lance, but which end I
cannot swear he used. Between five and 15 Lancers 1 saw charging down the quay. I
could see from 50 to 80 yards down the quay. About five to eight minutes elapsed from
the time I saw the Lancers charge until they re-appeared. I heard of one man mortally
wounded, and several others wounded. '
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — While I sat in Mr. Dwyer’s room, I saw a number of
people, about 150, or from that to 200, congregated upon the quay and in the vicinity of
the bridge. As far as I could see down the quay, there were not a dozen people. When I
went into Dwyer’s, the voters had not passed, nor did I know they were to pass. I went
into Mr. Dwyer’s, having taken no steps to disperse the people, as I did not consider it
necessary, as the people were most orderly. They were no mob, because they were not
riotous; I don’t believe they did become a mob or riotous. While in Dwyer’s house I had
an opportunity of seeing 50 yards down the quay, and right and left of the bridge, and
during that time no stone or missile was thrown at the cavalry until the cavalry charged
down the quay- I do not know who the child was I saw pierced by the lance, and never
inquired since : 1 cannot swear whether the boy was pierced or not, but I saw- the lancer
use as much physical force as he could. I did not leave the house when I saw this. My
conviction is, that if the High Sheriff of the county had gone into the crowd during the
charge, he would have been pierced by the military, as well as the other parties, and if I
had gone out I would have shared the same fate; I was not afraid to go out; I
believe the soldiers were under such excitement, that I would have had no influence
with them. During the day, as far as my observation went, they were a well
conducted crowd. The Lancer pursued the boy as far as the parapet. I saw
the boy endeavour to ascend the parapet, and on his making a second attempt, the Lancer
thrust the lance point at his back, 'lhe whole thing was the work of a second. I did not
notice any other Lancer there. I cannot tell whether any other person saw this or not. 'l he
boy was about 50 yards from me when I saw the occurrence. The Lancers l saw charge
the people at the Shandon side were about 50 yards from me. I saw some of the people
attempt to ascend the railing at the western side, near the bank, to escape the Lancers.
The Lanceis were chasing them up to the railings. 1 can swear to four or five, but can’t
say how many more. It was the outside of the railings they were attempting to ascend.
1 will not swear that the Lancers did then attempt to use the lance, but will swear that the
one who went inside the railing did use it. I don’t believe that I gave distance as my
reason for not being able to see which end of the lance was used ; I can’t say which end
of the lance was used, in Consequence of the obstruction caused by the people on the
railing. At a meeting of the magistrates, some days before the election, it was arranged
amongst them that they would take no part in the affairs of the ■ election, unless officially-
called on. There were four resident magistrates in charge of the town on that day. The
window in Mr. Dwyer’s house was open.
Robert R. Kennedy.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on. ’ r
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 7th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. JDennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The .deposition of Alice Crawley, of Dungarvan, a Servant Girl, who, being first duly
sworn, deposes and says : —
I was a servant to the late Captain Kiely. I was at one of the windows of his house on
Saturday the 29th of December last. I saw the Lancers coming down the bridge from the
quay, towards Captain Kidy’s house ; they were galloping as hard as ever they could, they
had their lances in their hands. I could see up to the arch of the bridge, and to where the
“Johanna and the yacht were lying. I saw people on the quay run nine everywhere, when
they saw the Lancers coming down on them ; they were flying away from them. I saw
them jumping into the vessels. I saw no persons resist or attack the Lancers on the quay.
1 saw no stones thrown. I did not know William O’Brien who lost his life. I saw a man
on toe quay opposite the entrance to the root market ; he was doing nothing at all ; I saw
a Lancer approach him. The Lancers were running down the quay in great speed, and this
man made a charge at the man who was standing. The Lancer had a lance in his hand;
he carried it up straight in his hand. When the Lancer came up to the man, the horse
was between me and the man. The Lancer turned the horse and danced on the man’s feet,
but not on his body. The Lancer went down the quay and turned back, and went into the
Linney,
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Linney, where the people went away from them. There were many people in the Linnev
at the time. He was darting at them with the lance, and they were trying to get away
from him. At this time there was only one Lancer there. The" people were throwing no
stones at him, only trying- to escape him as well as they could. The man was lying on the
quay at this time. [ saw other Lancers on the quay and coming down after the man was
knocked down. I would not know the Lancer that knocked down the man; his horse was
black or brown. Captain Kiely’s house is about 20 yards from this place. I saw one of
the Lancers make a dart of his lance at the body on the ground ; it did not reach him.
The Lancer went in full speed down the quay farther. There were no people on the quay
at this time, as far as I could see, except those in the vessels. There were four persons
including Captain Kiely, about Captain Kiely’s door; Captain Kiely was standing on the
steps, and there were two men between him and the railing, and a woman in the gateway
There were no si ones thrown by those people on the quay or by those at Captain Kiely’s
door at the soldiers. I saw the Lancer that went into the Linney come out of it and ride as
fast as he could ; he turned the horse up at the flag of Captain Kiely’s door, and made a
dart at his neck ; the dart did not avail on his neck. He then turned and backed the
horse, and struck Captain Kiely with the lance under the breast. He turned and made a
dart at the woman who was standing in the gateway of Captain Kiely’s ; the gateway is
immediately alongside the door; he did not strike the woman, the thrust missed her; 'the
woman remained where she was until the Lancer went away; the wicket of Captain Kiely’s
gate was open, and she went inside it.. I saw Lancers go down the quay, but I could not
see any farther. I saw nothing clone to any other person before -that, except what I told.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — I was at Mrs. Whelan’s at Abbeyside, and Mr. Flynn
one of the jurors, was talking to Mrs. Whelan about the Lancers and askin°- about them!
He-asked her did she know anything about the Lancer, and was it there the fancer lodged’
that did the deed, meaning the Lancer that killed Captain Kiely. I heard Mrs. Whelan
say that she gave 40 of them a penny loaf each and some drink, Out I can’t say how much
she said. Mr. Flynn said they were trying to go as far they could to find out about the
Lancers, and I said it was poor satisfaction for the woman and her seven children, that lost
her husband ; Mr. Flynn said to me, what did I know about it. Mrs. Whelan said that I
was Captain Kiely’s nurse, and that I was looking out of the window. I said I was look-
ing out of the window, and Mr. Flynn said I would be able to give great intelligence about
it; there was nothing else. The conversation occurrecl on the Tuesday evening after
Captain Kiely was killed. I was looking out of the window for half-an-hour before the
Lancers came down, and I saw some hundreds of people between the bridge and Captain
Curran’s yard, and down as far as the Linney. These was great shouting when the voters
were coming up to the bridge. I saw no stones thrown. When the people came down
before the Lancers, they ran into the Linney and it was full. I saw the deceased O’Brien
standing for a few minutes where he was knocked down, before he was knocked down, and
close to the Linney, and outside it. I cannot tell how many Lancers passed before O’Brien
was struck. The Lancer who struck him, was galloping with full force down the quay, and
lie made no halt. I can’t say whether he was thrown down with horse or lance. He
backed the horse round and danced on the man’s feet. I am quite sure O’Brien was not
walking on the quay, either on it or across it at the time he was knocked down. I saw
another Lancer come along and make a dart of his lance at O’Brien, and it did not reach
him. I saw nothing else happen to him until he was taken up. I saw O’Brien taken up
by one person, and while he had a hold of him, I left the window. While I was looking at
O’Brien, Captain Kiely’s clerk came up to the next room, and said the master was killed.
Up to this time I had not stirred, and kept looking at O’Brien, the deceased. A few
minutes elapsed from the time I saw O’Brien on the ground, am] my seeing Capt lin Kielv
struck with the lance ; when I saw Captain Kiely struck, I said, 0 merciful Jesus, the
master is killed ! and I still stopped looking out of the window, until I saw the prod made
at the girl. The Lancer went down the quay, and I could not see him further than a yard.
After I lost sight of the Lancer, Captain Kiely’s son went out and was running after the
Lancer, and I bawled out of the window to one of the men on the quay to run after young
Kiely, for fear the Lancer might trample on him. I was looking at the Linney while the
Lancer was in there; and I saw no stone thrown. When Ciptain Kiely was struck, he
turned round and went in; I did not know Captain Kiely was killed until the. clerk came
up. Only a second elapsed from the time Captain Kiely was stabbed, until he made the
blow at the woman.
Anne Crawley.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 8th day of January 1867.
Hen'y Thomas De.tmehy, Coroner.
Re -sworn and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kielv, this
18th day of January 1867.
Anne Crawley.
Henry Thomas Dennehy, Coroner.
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County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Murray, of August'. ^street, Dungarvan, a Mariner, who, being
first dulv sworn, deposes and says : —
1 was standing close to Captain Kiely’s house, and close to Captain Kiely, on Saturday
the 29th of December last. The first thing I saw was a rush of people from Captain Kiely’s
oate to a hooker belonging to me that had no ballast, on board of which a great many ol
them got. 1 ran to prevent them from upsetting the boat, never thinking the Lancers would
come down there. They saw the Lancers coming down, and I know it was from them they
ran. When l heard the tramp of the Lancers after me 1 got on board to protect myself
from the men and horses ; when l got on board, the horses went fast down the quay.
There were only two persons on the quay from that down ; those iwo were 50 yards, more
or less, from my hooker, and farther from the bridge; I was about 200 yards from the
bridge; these two were running down before the hoises. I saw a lancer strike one of the
two men I saw with the lance about the head or shoulders, but I can’t say which end of
the lance he used. The man fell under a cart which was standing up against Mr. Purser’s
w;i ]l. The other man ran towards the quay, and while running I saw another Lancer iu
chase of him. I saw him make a thrust at him, and then I saw a hut on the point of the
lance ; tlu- Lancer came back with the hat on the point of the lance, and rode up towards
the bridge. I saw one of the Lancers chase up Galway Vlane and saw nobody there. I
could not -see up the laue. I saw another go up Mrs. Aiieaine’s lane in full speed, bu: I
could not see the lane. 1 saw no stones thrown before these men went up the lane, or any
attack made on them. I saw nothing else until the horses came back, when l saw William
O’Brien Stretched outside the Linney. The Linney was chockfnl from, end to end, chiefly
women. I saw Lancers go into the root market ; I saw them darting at the men and
women as they were there, with the butt end of the lance- I can’t say whether it was two or
three Lancers I saw there. I did not. see either of the two men I saw on the quay assail
tlv- Lm.cers in any form. I did not see any stones thrown from my hooker at the Lancers.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — My hooker was opposite Captain Kiely’s house ; there
were about three vessels and several hookers farther on down the quay. The people who
ran irom Captain Kiely’s to my hooker were sitting outside the gate, and some standing.
1 am sure there were 20 there, but will not say there were not 60 ; hut the deck of my
hooker was chockfull. The people on board were on the side of the hooker next the quay,
so that the I.ancefs could not sec them ; 1 did not see tbe Lancers until they had passed me.
The Lancers who had gone down the quay returned ba^k as far as the Linney. I never saw
O’Brien on the quay until the Lancer* returned as far as my boat ; after they passed ray
boat, between me and the bridge, it was then I saw the deceased, O’Brien, stretched ou
his face and eyes. 1 can’t say who threw the stone from my hooker ; I swore if I knew
who did it 1 would throw him overboard. The soldiers had passed away when this was
done. The stone was thrown on the quay. The soldiers had passed the hooker about the
length of the Court House at the time ; the stone was not thrown in the direction of tbe
soldiers. Because I considered the person who threw the stone did wrong was the reason
I threatened to throw him overboard. My reason for checking them was because if they
saw the stone tin own ihey would turn back and stab some of us. To iny knowledge there
was no stone on board my boat before the crowd went on board from Captain Kiely’s. It
must have been by one of the men who came from Capiain Kiely’s gate that the stone was
thrown when the soldiers passed oft' the quay. I saw the people come ou shore from the
“ Johanna” and the yacht. Immediately on the soldiers going, the people went ashore. I
did not see any person do anything to O’Brien while he lay on the ground ; neither did I
see the horseman who stood alongside of him do anything. I saw some man come up and give
him a cant and lay him down again, and the man who did so walked into the Linney away
ftom him. During that time nobody else came up or did anything to O’Brien or the man.
I can’t say whether stones might have been thrown from the Linney before I saw O’Brien
and before I saw the Linney ; they may have been without my seeing them. While the
soldiers were passing down between me and the sea, 1 saw no stones thrown at them from
the vessel or any other place ; if they were I did not see them. The stone I saw thrown
was a powdered paving stone, about the size of an ink bottle.
John Murray.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1, to our Sovereign Lady tbe Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 8th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Patrick Botvdren, of Blackpool, Dungarvan, Master Mariner, who,
being first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
I was on the quay of Dungarvan on Saturday, the 29th of December last, when Captain
Kiely and O’Brien lost their lives; I was at Captain Kiely’s gate; there were in or about
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10 with me ; they were doing nothing, only looking on ; I saw the Lancers charge dow»
the quay; 1 did not see O’Brien «m the quay; when I found Captain Kiely’s gate iva-
cloped, I ran lor my life on board Captain Murray’s hooker, and got on board ; I saw the
soldiers go as far as Captain Curran’.-, gate before they turned back ; this was the ®ate of
the eastern yard ; I saw no people on the quay ; neither did I see the Lancers do anythin® •
1 saw vessels and honkers to the east end of the quay ; I saw no people on board those
vessels; from three to five Lancers went down past Murray’s hooker, and I saw them
coming back ; I saw a man’s hat and handkerchief on the p 0 im <,f the lance • the lance
was pierced through the hat and handkerchief; as the Lancers were passing Murray’s
hooker, one of them stopped and spoke to the people in the hooker, saying,— “Ye damned
sons of hitches, we’ll give it to ve.” He then passed on. I was in the act of taking off my
coat and shoes tor the purpose of jumping overboard, fearing they may come to the hooker
and dart m us. The Lancers then went up in the direction of the root market, or Linnev
I saw nothing take place at Captain Kiely’s door. I came nut of 'the hooker in about five
minutes after the Lancers went away. Cap'ain Kiely was stabbed in the interval be'ween
my leaving him and my coming out of the hooker. The Lancers went inside the wall of
the root market. There are three entrances to the market. I saw two of the horses ®o
through the east, entrance. I can’t tell where the other Lancers went to ; they went out of
my sight. I did not see ill • Lancers do anything in the root market. When I looked I
saw a man on his face and eyes, about 10 feet from the north-east entrance of the market*
I saw no more of trie man. As soon as I got a chance of the Lancers 1 went home. None
of the people about Captain Kiely’s door assaulted the Lancers in any way, neither bv
shouting nr stone-throwing. I did not see a stone thrown out of the hooker. I did not
see any person assail the Lancers while they were on the quay. I looked at the root market
before the soldiers entered it, ami 1 saw no stones thrown from it.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian .— I was on board the hooker about three minutes before
I saw Captain Murray. At the time I was going to jump overboard, Captain Murray was
on board. I swear there were not 20 at Kiely’s gate. I can’t tell whether persons came
on board from other places besides Kiely’s place. There were about 20 on board, and there
might have been more; some of them were women ; I saw two women, but there might
have bf en more. I saw a great many people running down from the direction of the bride, j
towards Murray s hooker and Kiely’s store. r l he Lancers were charging the people. I wTll
not swoor thnt them were not 300 there, but I do swear there were not 500 there. Some of
thi-se people got, on hoard the “ Johanna,” the yacht, nod the hooker, and I saw some go
into the Liimey. I saw people scattered from Kiely’s to the bridge; some iuinpiner
boairl and some getting into the toot market. They were jumping everywhere 10 save their
lives. I don’t know whether some of the people made for Kiely’s hall door. The a-ate was
not open, but (he door was. The Lancers were between me and O’Brien. At. the first time
I saw him down, it was between the open between the Lancers I saw him. I saw stones
thrown on that day from about, the bridge. 1 saw one stone in the air as the Lancers were
charging near the iron railing up near the bridge. I was standing at the time opposite
iVieley s gate on the qua' . That was the only sione I saw thrown on that day. There was
no shooting at the time the stone was thrown. The stone might have struck the soldiers, or
it might have missed them. I saw nothing else thrown on that day. I saw no stones in
the hands of any persons, and I swear I had not one myself.
Patrick Bowdren.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 8 th day of January 1867.
Henry Thomas Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Richard Curran , of Abbeyside, Dungarvan, a Master Mariner, who,
being first duly sworn, deposes and says: —
1 was ui the Court-house railings, at the angle opposite Mr. Dwyer's house on
>e 29th of December last. 1 had a full view of the bridge. I saw the escort
coming across with voters ; Major Worn bell and Mr. Maguire were with them.
ieie were hundreds of people about the bridge. The voters and escort came
own to the Court-house, which was the polling-place. I did not see fiu assault
ma e on the voters. At this side of the bridge, Major Wumbell turned to the right,
tl ? e 3p a . c ‘ don sidc - The voters were coming on in the rear. Tne Major was in front. As
e Major turned to the right, the voters were passing on. I did not then see any attack
■ \ ^. or l v °ters, or any attempt made to take them from the soldiers. 1 had the voters
u view until they came down to the Court-house. I saw Major Wombell attack two
had*’ USe sword freely with them. They attempted to get through the railings, and
of to S° fr* rou gh them. I will not swear whether it was the edge, back, or flat
e sword he used. I saw three Lancers attempting to foice the deal-\ard gate, which
e y succeeded :n doing. On their going in, they charged down the yard on the people. I
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saw a woman lidden over by one Lancer, opposite the new bank. I -can’t say whether stones
•were thrown or not where the woman was ridden over. Immediately before the woman
was ridden over, I cannot say whether stones were thrown or not from the crowd. I was
not looking: at the place before she was ridden over. Immediately, near the railing, I saw
a Lancer stand in his stirrups, and strike a man with all his might between his shoulders
with the butt end of the lance. The man was about five yards from me. The man was
close to the wall and doing nothing, and I did not see him assault the soldier in any way.
I did not see any of the Lancers charge down the quay. I lost sight of Major Wombell
after. The man was knocked down by the blow.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian— l did not leave the enclosed space of the Court-liouse
during the time what I saw occurred. I was not nearer to the bridge than the railings for
half-m -hour before I saw the voters. To the best of my belief, there were about 400 nr 500
there, but I will not swear ihere were not double that number. Up to the time the voters
came in, the people I speak of were in the vicinity of the biidge. I don’t know whether
the Lanctrs and magistrates who brought in the voters were pelted or not. There was a
large coach which might have prevented me from seeing it. I did not see a Slone thrown
by any individual on that day, neither did I see them in the air. 1 did not see a stone
strike anybody, I swear 1 did not see anything done to the Lancers at all on that day. I
saw in or about 28 police, and a sub-inspector with them, within about 50 or 60 yards of
the place where whai I have described occurred. The police were within about 10 or 12
yards of where the woman was knocked down. There was a line of military between the
police and the woman. I was on the railings from four to five minutes, and all I have
described occurred within that time.
Richard Curran.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 9th day of January 1867..
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Cornelius Redmond, of Waterford, Proprietor of the “ Waterford
News,” who, being first duly Sworn, deposes and says: —
1 was standing inside the Court-house tailings on Saturday, the 29th of December last,
near the angle next the bridge, and near where Captain Curran stood. I saw the escort
and voters at the other side of the bridge, coming over the bridge. There was a crowd col-
lected in the open space before the bridge at each side of the road ; the voters came on a
single line of cars, and passed over the bridge, with a guard in front, a guard in the rear,
amt a guard at each side. When the voters came across the bridge, the crowd shouted; I
think it was more a buzz than a shout; about 50 police were drawn up at the Court-house,
at either side, and a larger number at the hotel ; there were some infantry, also, at the
Court-house; the police at the hotel were about 40 yards from the open space at the
bridge ; the voters and escort were not assaulted by anybody when they passed over the
bridge; there was not the least attempt made to lake away the voters from the escort; the
voters passed on without stopping; the crowd was composed of men, women, and boys;
as scon as 'the Lancers came over the bridge, a portion of them turned to the right, and a
portion to the le!t; I then lost sight of the Lancers and people at the Shandon side, and my
atitniion was entirely directed to the quay side; the crowd on the quay 6ide closed in on
the road two or three feet, leaving ample passage for the voters; the closing in did not
press on the escort in any way. The Lancers turned towards the people, and began to
plunge with their horses, leaning forward on their horses and holding their lances ; the
lances weie directed against the, people on the quay side; I did not see the Lancers come
into collision with any of the people at that time ; up to that time there had not been a stone
thrown ; in a couple of minutes the Lancers rushed down the quay ; the people fled from
them, and the Lancers rushed forward with their lances in their hands, as if going into
battle, and I saw no more of them ; I heard cries of women, and cries of two people being
killed, from the diiection where the Lancers went; I saw nothing except plunging and
charging done by the Lancers. The character of the crowd up to the plunging of the horses
was orderly and quiet.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian,— I will not swear that the voters did not walk across the
bridge ; I was speaking to Mr. Flynn, one of the jprors, for two or three minutes on this
morning about what occurred at Mrs. Whelan’s, at Abbeyside; I did not speak to him
about the evidence I am to give ; I was speaking to a clergyman about the distance, but I
son unable to say whether Mr. Flynn was there or not ; I think he was not; for 15 minutes
before the voters came in, there were not more than half a dozen people on the quay, and
m or about 20 at the bridge ; there were stones thrown in the neighbourhood of the bridge,
but I can’t say by whom; I saw three or four stones in the air; this was after the Lancers
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charged the people ; I saw none before ; I saw no person struck ; I saw no stones thrown,
except at the bridge; I was in the square in the morning, but did not see the Lancers charge
there. °
Cornelius Redmond.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute ihe
above deposition when called on. 1
Taken and acknowledged before me this 9th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Henry Anthony , of Dungarvan, Surgeon, who, being first duly sworn
deposes and says : —
I was called between one and two o’clock on Saturday, the 29th of December last, to see
the deceased, William O’Brien, who was in the Linney, at the Root Market, on the
quay. He was living, but insensible. I made no examination at the time of him, but my
opinion was, that he was suffering from concussion of the brain; I saw him again on the
same night at the hospital where I had him removed ; he was insensible when I saw him
the second time ; I made an external examination of his head on the same night; I dis-
covered a circumscribed swelling on the left side of the head over the occipital bone, on
pressing that part he winced as if he felt; there must have been some external violence
used to cause the appearance the head presented ; there must have been a good deal of
external force to produce the concussion ; the injury was such as might have been produced
with the butt end of a lance, or some such round instrument ; there was a slight abrasion
over one of the eye-brows; it might be caused by falling on the ground. I did not see
sufficient external appearances to enable me to come to the conclusion that concussion may
not have been caused in any other way. I believe the death of the deceased O’Brien was
caused by a blow on his head. I dressed four or five wounds myself on this day, such
wounds as might be produced by lances ; with the exception of one, they were all old
people; the wounds were produced by some sharp instrument piercing the hat and the
scalp. A man standing inside my door showed me a wound on his neck; it was a con-
tusion. Two had their hats pierced, and one had a scalp wound about two inches and a half
from the top of his head. When next I saw the deceased he was dead and in the dead-
house.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian.—' The appearance on the head of the deceased might be
the only appearance that would be presented if a Lancer rode at full speed at him and struck
him with the butt-end of the lance. I discovered no fracture of the skull by external
examination ; it may have been fractured; there may have been a very large fracture of the
internal table of the skull without any external fracture without my being able to discover
it. A man falling while running may get concussion which would be momentary, but it
would not continue up to death ; it may continue for hours, but not for a day or two. Dr.
Hunt continued to attend the deceased after I left him. I can’t say whether such an
instrument as I see represented on paper would produce such a wound. Dr. Hunt and I
did not consider' it necessary to make a post-mortem examination of the body. The size of
the swelling I saw on the head of the deceased on Saturday night was about two inches
and a half by two, and it disappeared when I saw him dead.
Henry Anthony, Surgeon.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 9th day of January 1867.
Henry Thomas Dennehy , Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Michael Connory, of Spring, who, being first duly sworn, deposes
and says
I am a caretaker of Miss Carberry’s. I was coming in to Dungarvan on Saturday, the
a December last. It was market day. I was along with the voters and Lancers on
he road; I overtook them. .The voters were on cars. There were some Lancers before
them and some behind, and some at the sides. I was walking on the footpath. A.
Lancer rode up on the footpath; it was in or about a quarter of a mile from the town. I
went out on the road from him and attempted to go from him ; I went across to the other
f t, 0 * roat ^ g e t ou t of their way ; I was struck by one of the Lancers with the butt
of the lance. This was about eight or nine o’clock in the morning. I was struck in the
lorehead, over the left eye, and cut. I was knocked down by the blow. When I got up,
a went to the big wall on the side of the road, and I was bleeding ; I pretended I was
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killed. I lay down there; two or three horses were dancing on the opposite side, and one
of the Lancers came over and gave me a stroke of the lance in the eyebiow. Lie eyebrow
was cut, and the coat also. When they came the second time and saw me bleeding, they
went awav from 'me. I said or did nothing to provoke that assault. I can t say whether
there were officers or not with them.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian.— Both cuts were dressed by Dr. McGrath. I went on
my knees or el bows 'and said I was killed. When the people told me the Lancers were
gone, I got up and walked into town, and got myself dressed. I cleaned my coat befbie
I went in. I swear I did net get the second cut by throwing inyself down. I saw no
stones thrown. I heard women shouting at the Lancers and voters, “ Down with the
Torv.” It was between the place where 1‘was struck and the town that I heard the women
use those expressions I have mentioned.
his
Michael x Connory,
mark.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 Z. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 9th day of January 1867.
Henry Thomas Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John M. Martin, of Dungarvan, a Carpenter, who, being first duly
sworn, deposes and says : —
I was working at the new bank on Saturday, the 29th of December last. I was there
when the voters were coming in ; I was about one o’clock, to the best of my belief. There
were a great many people about the bridge at both sides, and in the vicinity of it, as the
Lancers and voters came in; about 500, as near as I could say. When the voters and
escort were coming to the bridge, an advance guard of the Lancers rode out, and went to
drive the people back ; the Lancers rode their horses at a gallop against the people, and
struck at them with their lances, but with which end I cannot say. Up to the time the
Lancers rode against the people I saw no stones thrown; the people were not disorderly;
they were apparently tranquil. To the best of my opinion, there was room for the Lancers
to pass between the people. After the Lancers had pushed the people on before them, I
saw stories thrown, particularly from Mahony’s timber-yard and about the bridge. The
people got up on the window of the ground floor in the house in which I was working.
Before l left ii the window was closed'"up by a Lancer riding up against the people there.
There were lour women there ; the Lancer rode his horse up close to them. L went up
stairs then, and I saw ihe Lancers riding about furiously from place to place. I saw stones
thrown from Mahony’s yard ; there were a good many thrown; they were thrown thinly
for about a minute. I saw about 40 police go into Mahony’s yard ; in about a minute they
ran the people into the slob or strand, and cleared out the yard. 1 saw a boy on the
S st of the bridge struck or poked in the breast by one of the Lancers ; I can’t say
end of the lance was used. I saw the people running down the quay, and the
Lancers running down after them ; they were galloping furiously ; the people were appa-
rently running away from them. I did not see any stones thrown on the quay. About 18
Lancers, or perhaps more, went down the quay ; 1 could see down the quay as far as the
“ Johanna.’
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — There were people at this end of the bridge for half ap
hour or 20 minutes before the Lancers came up, and as the Lancers appeared at Abbeyside
thev came more thickly to the amount of 400 or 500 ; there were about 50 or 60 inside the
timber-yard. To the best of my belief, there were no stones outside the railing on that day.
To the best of my belief there were about 200 people ; some about the bridge ancl some
scattered outside the railing ; there was about an equal number at the quay side of the
bridge. There was so much confusion I did not see the voters at all. When the Lancers
got to this side of the bridge they opened in the centre, and came to each side of the bridge
and drove the people back ; they rode at them, struck them, and pushed them back forcibly ;
the movement appeared to me to clear the people before them, and leave qo person there.
No stones were thrown until the Lancets, forced the people clown the railings, and the stones
began to go in about a minute or half "a minute after. I saw the stones flying without
see.ng anybody stoop for them; the stones came from the foot of the bridge (the Shandon
side) and Mahony’s yard, and outside the railings on the Shandon side. I suppose there
were about 100 stones; the stones were chiefly the size of those placed on the road, and
some much larger ; the stones ceased to a great extent, but not altogether, by the Lancers
riding and dispersing the people. Up to the time the gate was broken, the people were
flinging stones at the Lancers from inside the railing; the largest stone 1 saw ihrown was
about three times the size of an ordinary powdered .paving. Up to the time I went upstairs
the Lancers had not gone down the quay. I can’t tell, up to the time I went upstairs,
whether any stones were flung at the Lancers or not at the quay side ; I was only upstairs
aboat a minute before the Lancers at that side turned to go down- the quay. About 150
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faced down the quay before the Lancers, or from that to 200. I cannot say that the stone
throwing had ceased when the Lancers went down the quay; there might be one or two
going, but for all I could see it had ceased. . The crowd had scattered, and the stone
throwing ceased, before the soldiers charged down the quay. The police had cleared out
most of the people out of the yard before the Lancers got in ; the stone throwing teased
almost immediately as the police got in ; about 20 were thrown as the police got in, as if it
were the last volley ; this 1 use as a figurative expression.
John M. Martin.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1 . to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 9th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Denneky , Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit
The Deposition of Ambrose Hunt, of Dungarvan, Surgeon, who, being first duly sworn
deposes and says : —
t 1 AM fc be poor-house doctor. I saw the deceased, Wm. O’Brien, for the first time on
Sunday, ihe 30th of December last, at the poor-house hospital; he was then insensible, and
died in about five or six hours after. I only saw him once. I believe he was labouring
under concussion of the brain, and I believe that was the cause of his death. I can’t say
how the concussion was caused. 1 saw no marks or wounds on him on examining him. *
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — Sunday morning, before 12, I first saw the deceased*
O’Brien. It would be utterly impossible that the deceased could have a wound two and a
half inches by two, got at two o’clock the day before, anil all traces to have disappeared by
•12 the next day. I am of opinion that the butt end of the lance produced, if used by a
Lancer riding at full speed, and driven against the occipital bone, would produce a fracture
of a very serious character ; it would depend on the angle on which it struck. It is
possible a wound oi two and a half inches by two might be produced by a Lancer going at
iull speed, and striking with the butt end at an angle on the occipital bone, hut I believe
that a wound produced in that way would not be sufficient to produce concussion of the
brain; that is, 1 mean struck at so great an angle. It is possible there might have been
such a contusion os would produce concussion and cause death, and yet the contusion
would disappear in a few hours. Such a contusion on the occipital bone would be more
likely to be produced by a direct blow than by a blow' given at an angle ; the effect of the
blow would depend much on whether the man wore a hat or not, and on the formation of
the head, and the angle at which it struck ; if struck with a hat on at a very great angle, it
would be more likely to glance off without doing any harm at all. It is not likely that a
man fulling forward to the ground violently while running would receive concussion, but it
is quite possible. If I heard a witness describe the deceased as having attempted to run
across the quay at two o’clock on Saturday, and falling forward suddenly, and never
stirring afterwards, or recovering sensibility, and that I found him in the same state on
Sunday morning at twelve o’clock labouring under concussion of the brain, I would say that
concussion was caused by the fall. It would be possible for the concussion so caused to
continue all that time, and up to the time of his death. I examined the "external surface
of the body after death, and found uo wound or contusion. I will not swear that the man’s
skull was not fractured at the back of the head, it is quite possible a man might receive
concussion without receiving a blow or external violence on the head. If I heard from a
faithworthy witness that the man, whilst standing in health, received a blow on the head
with a lance from a Lancer going at full speed, and which threw him down insensible, and
that a competent medical man on the same evening found a contusion on the part of the
head struck, on which, being pressed, the man winced, and that the man died of concussion
of the brain, I would be of opinion that the man died from the concussion caused by the
blow. Concussion might be caused by a man falling violently on his buttocks, the shock
being communicated to the brain by the spine. I agreed with Dr. Anthony as to the
immediate cause, of death — concussion of the brain. I believe what Dr. Anthony stated
about a tumour being on the back of his head on Saturday night to be quite true," and my
not finding one there on Sunday morning did not induce me to think what he state.! was
not true. If Dr. Anthony stated it was the blow of a lance on the back of the head
produced concussion, I must disagree with him, for I am not at all satisfied it was that
produced it. If I wanted to produce concussion of the brain on a subject, without producing
injury on the scalp, ihe butt end of a lance is the last instrument 1 would choose for that
purpose. I believe Dr. Anthony to be quite competent to give an opinion as to the cause
of the deatli of the deceased.
Ambrose Hunt.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 10 th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner..
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County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Butler Green, Esq., a resident Magistrate of the County of
Monaghan, who, being first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
I was on duly in Dnngarvan at the late election for the county of Waterford. I was on
duty on the day of polling, the 29th December last. I was required to escort voters into
town, and I went with troops for that purpose on two occasions on the 29th ; I went for
the first time about a few minutes before nine o’clock ; I returned to town with voters about
half-past 10. I went out the first time to the residence of Mr. Roberts; Coolnagour,
as well as I recollect, is the name of the place. Lord Hastings and I went out together.
I brought in about 100 voters at lhat time. When we came to the square, Major Wombell
and I were riding together in front, and as we came there I saw stones flying in the rear.
The stones came from the crowd and towards the troops. There were a great many
stones; I saw no other weapon or missile used. I saw people with sticks in their hands,
but I did not see them using them. I did not see anybody struck on that occasion. I
can’t say who was struck or who was not struck. The stone throwing continued while I
was going from the square to the yard near the hotel, with voters, and on returning to
ihe square there was some excitement and some stone-throwing going on ; I remained
there for 10 or 15 minutes, and got the troops to be going round and round, and this
stopped the stone throwing, and the square became quiet. The troops remained on the
square while 1 was at the livery yard with the voters. I can’t say that I heard any
offensive expressions used by the people to the Lancers. I heard the ordinary expressions
used at elections. I went out the second time about half-past 12, with Lancers, com-
manded by Major Wombell, to meet other Lancers who were out before us, and who were
coming in with voters. We met those Lancers about a mile and a half outside the town,
and returned with them; Captain Lequesne was with them. We went out over the bridge.
When we met the voters, at about half a mile at the other side of the bridge, they were
taken off cars ; Mr. Hatchell was escorting the voters in with the troops. The voters were
placed in a mass between half a troop of cavalry, half a troop in front, and half a troop in
rear. When we came a little nearer to the bridge, near some cottages, we met a company
of infantry there, with Major Lennon and Captain Coote. This company was divided and
placed at each side of the voters. When this was done they moved on. I went with
Major Wombell in front ; his troop was not put in use to bring round the men. The
voters came in and crossed the bridge. When we came to the bridge, or near it, we
observed from the other side a crowd at the town side on each wing of the bridge. Major
Wombell and I, then on the bridge, divided his troop towards each of those wings, in
front of this crowd. There were crowds at each side. This was my direction to Major
Wombell, to divide the troops at each side to keep back the crowd, and allow the voters
to pass in. The effect was to keep back the crowd. The crowd was not forced back, in
my opinion, more than I thought necessary, and more than I intended, I was in command
and authority over those Lancers at that point. The voters that had been surrounded
with the infantry and cavalry began to pass in. At the moment stones began to fly
from both wings of the bridge, a great number; I have no doubt there were at least
J,000 people about the wings of the bridge ; they were composed of men, boys, and women ;
there might have been children there without my seeing them. The stones were flung in
the direction of tne troops and voters; they came from both sides; I can’t say whether any
came from inside the railings; they came from that side. I saw two persons arrested, and
a scuffle going on inside the railings; the entire thing did not last more than ten minutes,
if so long; I mean the stone-throwing and scuffle. The troops got no further orders from
myself, or ever heard; the only directions I gave the troops were when Major Wombell and
I were placing them to keep the crowd back, and keep the road clear for the voters ; what
occurred after was instantaneous. Major Wombell when placing the men said, “Now,
men, keep steady, and don’t skedaddle.” One of the Lancers said, “ Sure, Major, we can’t
stand to be battered with stones as we were before ; flesh and blood can’t hear it.” The
ilajor replied, “We must all bear it; we must be steady.” There was no stone-throwing
going then ; it commenced in a minute or two after; I can’t say the number of stones flung,
but there were hundreds ; they were like hail ; I think they were small broken stones, such
«« P. ut on roac [ s >' \ savv a hea P on the quay side, and the remains of it is there to-day.
VY hue the stone-throwing was going on, I saw the Lancers ride about, and the people ran
clown the quay from the quay end of the bridge, and the Lancers, about ten or a dozen, not
more, at that time galloped after them. I then saw Major Wombell gallop down in the
same direction after the Lancers. The Lancers did not wheel round and pursue the people
until after they had been pelted with stones, as I have described. If any gentleman swore
the Lancers charged down the quay before the stones were thrown, it would not be the
fact. Id id not leave the badge until the entire thing was over. I saw the back of
Major yy ombells hand cut at the moment. From the treatment the troops received on
tnat day and the previous day, I consider they acted with wonderful forbearance and
temper on the whole, so far as came under my observation. I consider I had full oppor-
tunity at each side of the bridge, and especially at the quayside, of seeing how the troops
conducted themselves. . 1
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters.— I saw the Lancers riding about on the square, keeping
back the people, but I think they did not use their lances. The people were pelting stones
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at the time. I did not consider the lives of the Lancers in danger, except so far as beino-
in the place where stones were thrown. I saw no person struck. 0 I think there were 150
soldiers with the voters coming in over the bridge. Up to the time the troops arrived at
this side of the bridge, where we divided the troops, there was no stone thrown. As we
came to this end of the bridge, the people opened out to either side and offered no* obstruc-
tion to our passing. I did not divide the troops for the purpose of making a passage
because there was a passage already, but for the purpose of preventing the people from
rushing in and incommoding the voters. The reason I did so was because when I was
bringing in the voters on that morning and on the previous evening, the rear °- U ard and
voters had been pelted. I came in with the troops between the crowd, and°no stones
were thrown for a minute or two. Major Wombell was about seven yards from me
and out of my earshot, because of the noise. I was struck in the side bv a stone as
if a dropping stone, but L was not hurt, and I was not a bit afraid. The idea of beino-
in danger did not enter into my consideration at the time; I did not think anythin”
about it. At the time I saw the people running down the quay, and the soldiers
riding afier them, the stone throwing at the bridge had not ceased. I could see down
the quay about 30 yards; the stone throwing at the quay side had not ceased as the soldiers
rode down the quay after the people. At the lime Major Wombell rode down the
quay after the Lancers the stone throwing was still going on at the quay side. There
was a carl under the Court-house wall, and there were some women and men in it, and a
heap of stones from which some boys were pelting ; a Lancer gallopped over towards them
and I went and stopped him. I saw no injury'on that occasion inflicted on any person!
As a resident magistrate, I did not consider there was any necessity of ordering the use of
deadly weapons in the whole of the transaction ; I do not think anything occurred at that
bridge that would justify me in ordering the troops to fire, or the Lancers to lower their
lances and charge the people. In the whole election I saw nothing that would justify me
to order the troops to fire, or the Lancers to charge the people. I saw pelting goino- on
and the troops badly used, but not sufficient to take such extreme measures, I decline to*
answer the question, whether there was anything done to the troops on that day in my pre-
sence that would justify them in using deadly weapons ; that being a question of law that I,
as a resident magistrate, think I am not bound to be able to give an answer to. I decline’
to say what state of things would justify the use of weapons. I don’t think the soldiers
were to submit quietly to be stoned as they were in that day; and, as far as they came under
my observation, I did not see them do anything unjustifiable. I did not see the Lancers
injure any person on the road coming in that day.
John B. Green , r.m.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 10th day of January 1867.
Henry Tkos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Samuel Edward Maguire, Esq., of Clonea, a Magistrate of the County,
who, being first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
I recollect the 29th of December last, the day of polling for the county of Waterford
election. I came with the escort that brought the Comeragh and Clonea voters, about one
oclock ; there were about 140 or 150 voters. We were about a mile from the town, and Major
Wombell and Mr. Green came out with an additional force to escort us in. As I approached
the bridge I observed a number of people upon it and at either side, and as the troops
approached them they moved on in the direction of the town, and out of the way of the
troops. The populace fell back at either side at this end of the bridge; this falling back
was the result of the military clearing the way. Almost immediately upon the military
clearing back the people, there was a volley of stones came from the Shandon side. I did
not see stones from any other direction. The soldier's had reached the place between the
eap of stones and the gate of the deal-yard before any stones were thrown ; I did not see
any stones thrown from the quay side ; 1 can’t say whether there were or not. I was to the
rear of Mr. Green about 10 or 12 yards, and can’t say whether there were any troops at
either side. The Lancers did not assault the people, in any way before the stones were
ung; I think there were perhaps over 100 ; they were too thick to be pleasant; they were
principally macadamised stones ; I saw one huge stone ; it required a perfect Hercules to have
urled such a stone. I think there were about 700 or 800 people about the bridge and inside
e railings ; about 50 or 60 of those were scattered about inside the railings. Stones were
rown from inside the railing ; I saw the people picking them up ; they seemed to be all
en gaged in throwing stones ; the stone throwing was going on for about five or six minutes;
t e stones were thrown in the direciion of the Lancers; the stone thrcSviug was going on
MP “ le time I left, and I rode along into town. It would not be true if anybody swore
tat the military charged the people before stones were thrown. Before I left that place
saw a Lancer make a prod with the butt end of his lance at a man ; this was while the
s one throwing was going on. The Lancers conducted themselves on that occasion with
remarkable forbearance with reference to the usage they had got.
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Cross-examined bv Mr. Waters. — I saw a few of the Lancers’ horses prancing in front
of the people at the Shandon side, clearing them back, and one horse slipped.
S. Edward Macguire.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30/. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 10th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
Re-sworn and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiel,,
this 18th day of January 1867. & jfcw JKuc^re.
Henry Thos . Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Patrick Paly, of Glencoskoran, a Labourei, who, being fust duly
sworn, deposes and says : —
I was in Dungarvan on Saturday the day of polling; I came in with voters from
Sir Nugent’s place ; I left my house about two or three o’clock in the morning ; 1 was m
the square about nine ; I saw the Lancers galloping about there; I was down on the quay
between one and two; I was running down before the Lancers came on the quay; 1 saw a
man throw a stone up in the direction of the bridge, but it would not go bull the way to the
bridcre. The Lancers were coming down. He then, after throwing the stone, made his way
a little before me, and the Lancer was winding his lance. I can t say whether it was the
lance or horse that struck him, but he fell ; I can’t say whether lie was struck by horse or
lance, but. I saw him fall. He fell close to the Linney, and outside the wall ; he stopped
there until the Lancers returned up; I saw Melay then take him; I walked home at that
minute. After the man fell, I saw about two or three stones thrown out of the Lmney ; I
saw no other stone thrown bv the deceased, neither did I see any with him. While we were
running from the Coal-yard to the Linnev, was the time that elapsed between the throwing
of the stone and the man falling; I saw no stones thrown from any other place except the
Linney ; they could be thrown unknown to me ; the Linney was full up. 1 stopped at the
Linney until two Lancers came up, and one of them said, “ Every damned one of ye must
come out of that;” his lance was pointed towards them at the time, but he was doing
nothing with it. The two or three stones were flung at the Lancers.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — When the deceased man threw the stone he stood
nearly opposite the gate of the Coal-yard, about the middle of the quay; he crossed inside
the channel to within about five feet of the Coal-yard, and ran down by the wall.
his
Patrick x Daly,
mark.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 10th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
'IiiE Deposition of Alexander Edward Stowell Heard, of Tulla, County Clare, Sub-
Inspector ot Constabulary, who, being first duly sworn, deposes and says: —
I was on duty at the recent election in Dungarvan, opposite the Court-house; .1 was
there from about nine or teu until after two. As the military crossed the bridge, I saw the
people who were in front of the Court-house run towards the bridge, and I went for about
a minute to look for Sub-Inspector Channer ; when I came back I saw the Lancers at this
side ot the bridge, and I saw stones thrown from inside the railings ; I suppose at the
military ; 1 got into the inciosure near the railings through a broken rail with about 23
policemen ; there were about 40 people inside ; there may be more or less. I saw them
throwing stones over the railing out on the road, in the direction, of where the Lancers were;
I did not see the Lancers doing anything up to this, except one I saw pvodrling at a man
inside the railing, and I don’t know which end of the lance he was using ; the man was
amongst those. 1 saw throwing the stones. * I proceeded to clear the place, and as the
people got off into a meadow they threw stones back at us, as we were coming after them.
While the Lancers were at this end of the bridge stones were flung at them in great numbers,
but 1 can’t say the number.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters . — The only, place I saw stones thrown from was inside
the railings ; when the men got in one by one they cleared the place without injuring any
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one or being injured themselves; I went to the only place where I saw any danger and
cleared it. I did not see anything done at the quay side as my back was turned to°it, and
I was not looking in that direction.
A. E. Stowell Heard.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 11th day of January 1867.
Henry T/ios. TDennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Daniel Connors, a Sub-constable of Tulla, County Clare, who, being
first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
I was in the escort in charge of voters on Saturday, the 29th of December last; as the
escort came across the bridge, the first thing I saw, as I was partly on the bridge, was
stones coming from inside the railings ; they were thrown in the direction of the military,
the police, and voters ; at the time I saw the stones throwing tne Lancers were opened at
both side, clearing the people ; I succeeded in getting on, and 1 kept looking in the direc-
tion the stones were coming from ; they were coming so thick I was afraid of being
struck; as I was coming down towards the Court-house I saw a stone thrown, and a
Lancer raising his arm and stooping to avoid it; I can’t tell whether it struck him or not;
the stone came from the quay side ; the stones I saw thrown first came from the Shandon
side; according as I moved on, stones came from the left, or quay side, also ; they were flying
thick ; we found no difficulty in coming on with the voters, but the voters were afraid of
being struck by the populace; 1 heard them say there was no protection in the rear, where
they were ; I was able to keep my place well iu the line of march.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — I got no provocation on that day to use my sword*
when I saw the stones throwing I don’t know what the foremost Lancers were doing; they
•were 50 yards in front, and I could not see what they were doing ; I saw some of the
Lancers clearing the people near the new building, and more going down the quay; I can’t
say how far they went ; it was the left arm the Lancer raised to protect himself from ihe
stone, and the Lancer was riding at the time from the direction of the bridge towards the
Court-house.
Daniel Connor, a. c.
. Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l, to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 11th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Detmehy , Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Cole, of Collane, Countv Clare, a Sub-constable, who, being
first duly sworn, deposes and says
I was one of the escort coming with voters over the bridge on the 29th of December last ;
as I came to this side of the bridge I saw stones thrown from inside the railings, at the
Shandon side, in the direction of the military, police, and voters ; when the voters saw the
stones they quickened their pace, and I had a great difficulty in keeping my place; there
were about 20 or 30 thrown while I was passing; while the stones were being thrown in the
direction of the military and police, the military were doing nothing to the people.
John Cole.
Informant is bound in the sura of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 11 th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Melville Hatched, Esq., of Ballinasloe, a Resident Magistrate,
who, being first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
I was on duty in Dungarvon at the late election on tbe 29th of December last. I went
with an escort over the bridge about 11 o’clock on that morning on tbe Strad bally-road,
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to escort, in about 200 voters. We got back about half-past one. We were met by a
troop of Lancers, commanded by Captain. Duncane, Mr. Green, and Major Wombell. As
the Lancers came up to assist me, I ordered the voters oft the cars, and formed them up>
ciose to walk in. The cavalry were then formed up, half in front and half in rear. I was
riding in rear of the voters, and in front of Captain Norridge’s troop. As Major Wom-
bell’s troop which was in front, reached about the centre of the bridge, I saw stones thrown.
I was at that time within about 15 or 20 yards of the bridge, at the other side. Before the
soldiers crossed the bridge, I saw stones in the air coming from the direction of the
Shundon side. The next! saw was the troop of Lancers wheeling up at the end of the
bridge, half to the left and half to the right. I can’t say whether the stones continued
fronf the time I saw them until the soldiers divided to either side of the bridge. 1 should
say there were at that time about 600 or 700 people at the bridge. I saw a good many
women there. I was close enough to see every thing done by the Lancers at the time
they diviedd to the right and left. The Lancers did not molest the people when pulling
up. I consider it was necessary they should pull up at that point, in the manner in which,
they did it. A few of the Lancers passed on with the voters, and those that remained
behind were received with volleys of stones, particularly from the Shandon side. My
horse was struck in several places, but not injured. The stones were very thick and in
volleys, I mean down the Shandon side. I saw one Lancer’s horse stumble. I saw some
Lancers struck, and one struck twice in the back. I saw a shako knocked off. I never
saw stones thrown so large as those thrown from inside the railings at the Shandon side.
I rode close to the railings for my own protection, and to see the police get in. Some of
the stones were so large they were lobbing them over the railing. I directed the police
to get in and clear out the place. The police got in, and I saw three or four Lancers also
get in and gallop round, and they cleared the place ; I saw two men arrested. When the
Lancers divided at the bridge, a portion of them went down the quay, and my attention
was directed to the Shandon side. All the Lancers about the bridge, with the exception
of the three or four in the yard, had their lances carried. Those that started to go down
the quay were pelted before they started from the quay side. The stones from the quay
side were nothing in comparison to those thrown from the Shandon side. For the moment
that I saw the stones came pretty freely from the quay side. Some of the stones flung
from the Shandon side were flung with suffibient force to reach the Lancers ai the quay
side. I observed some of the crowd at the quay side of the bridge running down the quay
before the Lancers. The Lancers turned on those and drove them down the quay. From
what I saw I think the Lancers acted with great forbearance.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — I did not see the lances that were lowered put into-
any person’s body. The Shandon side was the side I considered where the most danger
was, and I turned to that. I gave no orders to the Lancers to charge, but I did give
directions to the constabulary to act at the Shandon side. I saw two men knocked down
in front of the New Building, but I can’t swear they were knocked down by the Lancers,
but to the best of my belief they were. I did not mean to say that there was not danger
at the quay side.
J. Melville Hatchett.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1 . to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 11th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Alexander Gullend,&n Army Surgeon of the 6th Foot, who, being first
duly sworn, deposed and says : —
I have charge of a detachment of Lancers in Ferrnoy. I saw one Lancer on Sunday, the
30th December last, in Fermoy, Seijeant-Major Bromley ; he had contusion on the back
of the head and on the left temple, and on the bridge of the nose. I saw Major Wombell
on same day ; he had contusion of right hand. On 1st January 1867 I saw Serjeant-Major
Hannan on same day ; had a cut on right hand. Farrier Serjeant Tillier on same day had*
a contusion over right eye. Private Richard Owen had a cut ou.left hand. Private Charles
Barber had a contusion on right hand. Private John Garrier had a contusion on left elbow.
Private Richard Hamerton had contusion of left wrist. Private James Hamerton had a
contusion on right knee and on the abdomen.
A. Gullend, m.d., Surgeon, 6th Regiment.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30/. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this llth day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
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County of W aterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Cavendish Orred, Esq., a Captain in the 12th Lancers, who, being
first duly sworn, deposes and say's : —
I brought in voters about 10 o’clock in the morning of Saturday the 29th December Iasi
from a house at the right-hand corner of William-street, and at the square we were pelted
with siones and glass bottles. There was a good number. I know for. a fact that two of
my men were struck on coming into the square. The troop serjeant-major was cut on the
hand, and the farrier was cut over tire right eye; it was about 10 o’clock, or a little
after it. The expressions I heard used on the square were, “ Down with the Tories ” and
other party cries. I went out the second time about half-past twelve and came back about
half-past one; and on coming back, as I came about 10 yards from the bridge proper and
while still in the causeway at the abbey side, I saw a large crowd at the town side/ and
stones flying from them. The front troop was just over the head of the bridge as the stones
were flying. I proceeded on over the bridge, and as I arrived over I saw a few of our men
on the Shandon side putting the people back. Almost immediately those Lancers crossed
the main stieet and came down the quay. They rode down as far as a store about 20 yards
below Captain Kiely’s. I saw stoue-throwing at the bridge before the Lancers rode down
the quay. When I got to the town end of t he bridge, stones were flying in volleys from all
sides. I got a blow of a stone on my shako which produced the indentation that is on it.
The blow came from the quay side. As I rode down the quay on that occasion I saw there
were Lancers before me there. When I left the bridge to go' down the quay the stoning
was going on at the quay side. There were about eight or ten Lancers down the quay
before me. As I rode down the quay with my men they did nothing to the people ; they
had their lances carried. I saw people on the right close by the wall on the way towards
the Linney, and on board the yacht and vessel lying behind her. I saw the root market
full of people. I can’t swear lhat the people were as far as Kiely’s. I saw' no man on the
ground as I went down. There were no stones flying at my men down on the quay except
at the bridge ; when I say my men, I mean my troop only. I heard the assembly sounded
and they came back ; it was not any of my troop sounded it. I was a little farther on than
Captain Kiely’s. When the assembly was sounded we formed up and trotted back to the
root market. The people I have mentioned as being in the root market were told by some
of the Lancers to get out. of it, because they had stoned some of the Lancers going down ;
they did leave it. Some of my men got inside the enclosure before they left After the
people cleared out of the root market, we came up past the hotel and halted. The people
m the root market said they had not stoned them. I saw a blue mark on the left wrist ot'
one of my men on the quay ; his name was Hamerton; he showed me the wound just in
front of the root market. I recollect nothing else, except that the conduct of the crowd at
the bridge was exceedingly violent. As far as I had an opportunity of judging, the conduct
of my men was exceedingly forbearing.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — I don’t know where the stone was thrown from that
injured I-Iamerton; it was thrown between the bridge and the coal store. The man was
close to me, and I saw no injury as I left the bridge. I saw the wound on the man’s
hand before I got to the Linney. I rode about fifty yards beyond Kiely’s, and I was not
molested on the quay, or any of my men. If a stone had been thrown at a Lancer, and
the party ran away and was pursued by the Lancer, and knocked down by a blow of the
lance, and the man never rose after, I don’t consider the Lancer was justified in killing the
man, but I consider human flesh aud blood could not stand without retaliating in self-
defence. If a man does retaliate he is not justified in using his lance. I had not got into
the square when the bottle was thrown and the serjeant-major’s hand was cut. A green
flag was hanging from a door on the square, a corner house, and one of the men in front of
me stiuck at the flag with his lance. The bottle was thrown from this house, and before
the flag was struck at. Connery could not have been knocked down and struck twice
without my haying seen it. To my knowledge, none of my men were struck on the quay,
and may have been struck without my knowledge. A Lancer is justified in using his
lance when struck by pushing, but not by using either end. Major Wombwell rode down
the quay before me, after the first 10 or 12 men. It was the last of these 10 or 12 men
that were 12 or 14 yards from me. The men were scattered; I can’t say what distance
was between the first and last men. The major crossed the road from the Shandon side
to go down the quay, and had no men with him. The following are the names of the men
of my troop in Dungarvan on that day : — Serjeant-Major Hannan, Serjeant Sanders,
aerjeant Aitcheson, Farrier Serjeant Tillier, Corporals Smith, Cresswell, Meredyth, Red-
shaw, Privates George Smith, Henry Smith, Sheldon, Cobley, Gainor, Hammerton, Ham-
jnerson, Spiller, Brookes, O’Malley, Seeates, Ashley, Owen, Gaunt, MofFatt, Campbell,
Coster, Holland, Scavrett. After two o’clock my men got at the Devonshire Arms a small
bottle ol porter each. I was with them all day, from half-past seven in the morning till
half-past five in the evening. They could not have got drink without my having seen it.
Could not have a bottle in their haversacks without being able to see the bulk, or in their
pockets either. They were sober in the morning when I inspected them, and also in the
evening, at half-past five. They were quite sober when I gave them the drink at two.
J. Cavendish Orred, Captain 12th Royal Lancers.
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Informant is bound in the sum of 30/. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 11th. day of January, 1867.
Henry Thos. JDennehy, Coroner.
Re-sworn and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this 18th
day of January, 1867.
John Cavendish Owed, Captain 12th Royal Lancers.
Henry Thomas Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of John Charles Le Quesne, Esq., a Captain in the 12th Lancers, who
being first duly sworn, deposes and says: —
I was in command of a troop at the late election, on the 29th December last, at Dungar-
van ; I had my own troop ; they were sober. I saw them first in the moraine between
half-past seven and eight; I inspected them myself. With the exception of five minutes
I was with them tbe entire day up to five or six o’clock in the evening; I went during those
five minutes with a message from Major Wombwell to the officer commanding. Colonel
Saver. About a quarter to one the men were taken to an hotel at Abbeyside, and about
200 yards to the right; each man got a pot of porter, a piece of bread, and some cheese ;
they got. this in my presence, and in Major Wombell’s presence, and also in a serjeant-
major’s presence, and got no more. They were sober at half-past two o’clock, und at the
close of their day’s work. I was in the square about 10 o’clock in the morning, and I saw
stones thrown, coming down the street and in the square, at the soldiers and voters ; I did
not see any of the men struck at that time. As I was on the centre of the bridge, comincr
across, I saw stones flung from each side of the bridge. When the Lancers got across the
bridge iliey (a portion of a troop) separated to either side ; I with the remainder, and followed
by the voters, went on until 1 reached the cordon of infantry at the Court-house, and
stopped at the Imperial stables. As the troops divided to either side, they were stoned
from both sides.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. — I saw two of my men, Serjeant-Major Hurry Woolley
and Private Brawne, coming up from the quay when the recall was sounded. Scijeant-
Major Harry Woolley is in Dungarvan, Private Browne is not. To my knowledge no arrest
or inquiry was made in my regiment with respect to the transactions that occurred. I
heard on that day that a man had been knocked over on the quay, and taken to
hospital. A serjeant-major carries no lance.
John C. Le Quesne, Captain 12th Lancers.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30Z. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prosecute the
above deposition when called on. r
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 11th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
day oiXnuaryl867. n °' VledSetl brf ° re “ ' he inI l uest of Ba “ h °l°™w Kiely, this 18th
John C. Le Quesne, Captain 12th Lancers.
Henry Thos. JDennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to .wit.
The Deposition of Adolph™ VIM Wwboell, a Major in the 12th Lancers, who, being
first duly sworn, deposes and says : —
escmTi^brhiT^in Cf f bS , he,e ?" tbe da y °f election ; I formed part of the
mrflosJ I ™ ” ,1 ° n \ al day ; 1 brought in some voters from this side of the
Tter Ididnlt . q 'r re aW “ “’dock in the morning after returning with the
KSiffierXdL a ”, y t r,T ° r f b0ttles thrown in the sqSare that morning ; I saw
dav for voters and rJ A br .° m over ’he eye. I went out a second time on that
day tor voters and returned with them between one and two : I was in front of all with Mr
£d2 ,hToufvsJd O e t0Wn d rW, m “ wMed romd ^ ".ea”ht end of tl7e bridge
“und to see whai tt m ,D ( ^ ded "T 11 there i 1 did remain there. I lookfd
the Shandon J l T- '? the T were , doln .*> a “ d 1 saw stones in the air and min at
Cloned ov7r ^ 7 Wes down ; I left the men who were on the quay side, and I
faSedThem „„ fhf Sld ^ ; 1 told tbe men not ‘° ‘he points o/tbeir lances ; I
of a stone on tn U the s< ) aare not to use their lances ; I got a blow
acmi a man toM him noJ , ^ ° n f at occasion S 1 ™ cut. Whenever I came
side WI j™ 7 f e a lan , ce ; 1 saw some of ‘he men I had left on the quay
side had gone down the quay ; I gave them no direction to do so, while I was engaged at
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the Shandon side ; I did not see what was going on at the quay side The first thimr
I did on seeing themen down the quay was to look for the trumpeter ; I found a tnimoeter
below the Root Market, and I said, “For God’s sake sound the assembly he did so andtbl
men came back by degrees ; I did not see any person injured on the quay. Mv hirse was
hit on the head from either the shed or inside the wall, as 1 was going down to call the
trumpeter ; I got the men together, and took them up the quay.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. I saw no stones thrown,' until I divided the men at
this side of the bridge ; I saw some of the Lancers rushing at the people, and that was the
reason I said to the Lancers, None of that;” I was frightened lest they should hurt the
people. It was for stopping the Lancers for fear they should lose their temper and should
hurt the people. . I saw the Lancers galloping on the square that mornim. with their lances
down, and 1 cautioned them not to repeat it. They had no business to leave the quay side
without any order, and so far as I know they did leave without an order. I saw 1 man on
the quay when I came back, in a man’s arms; I saw a bat on the top of a lance on the
quay. I cannot say who nsed the lance on Captain Kiely, and I took no steps ’to aseer-
..... * , . . y -f ^ into collision with one of ray men on
the quay, and 1 was near being put into the river. The men on that occasion broke away
from my control; I can t tell who the men were that preceded me down the quay ■ I thouriit
it more important lo collect the men to prevent them from doing h'arm, but I did Sot
know they would do harm, than to inquire the name of any individual.
Adolphus Ulick Wombwell, Major 12 th Lancers.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1 to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit
The Deposition of Lord Hastings, of Gaultier, who, being first duly sworn, deposes
and says :
I was in Dungarvan on the day of polling. I came in with voters, about 11 ; they were
accompanied by an escort. As the Lancers and voters were coming in on that morning at
the new made wall, about four or five yards from the turn down to M'Dower’s brewery,
I saw a man throw a stone, and it hit a Lancer in the back of the head. I saw the Lancer
make a blow at the man, and the man went over, and lay down crying, and roared out.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. As I did not see the Lancers kill Captain Kiely or
U Bnen, I don t know the provocation they got, and I can’t say whether they were justified.
I swear the Lancer who used the butt of his lance on the man’s head, acted with exemplary
patience. -
Hastings.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1 . to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to
prosecute the above deposition when called on.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
18th day of January 1867.
Hastings.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition , of Robert C. Coole, Esq., a Resident Magistrate of County Louth, who
being first, duly sworn, deposes and says:.
I was on. duty, at the late election in Dungarvan. I escorted voters into Dungarvan from
the other side of the bridge about one or two o’clock, and as I came to tbis side of tbe
bridge I 6aw the people driven back by tbe Lancers to either side of tbe bridge. Before
tins was done stones were flung from either side. They were pretty Barge, and in numbers*’
200. * c2 I proceeded
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I proceeded on to Buckley’ s-yard with the voters, and I did not see Major Wombwell's
knuckles cut. I had a revolver in my pocket, but I did not present it at the people.
Robert C. Coole , r. m.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to
prosecute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
18th day of January 1867.
Robert C. Coote, r. m.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner,
County of Waterford, to wft.
The Deposition of Sir John Nugent Humble, Bart., of Glencoscoran, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I was in Dungarvan on the occasion of the recent election ; I saw nothing of what
occurred on the square in the early part of that day. I come in over the bridge after the
escort, between one and two o’clock. I was not sufficiently close to see anything that
occurred. I was on the causeway as the Lancers were at the town end of ihe bridge.
While l was on the causeway, I saw some Lancers disperse some people who were on the
quay side of the town end of the bridge. There seemed to be a considerable number of
people there ; 1 saw the Lancers go down the quay at a moderate pace, and the people
before them. Some, and indeed the greater number I saw, did go into the Koot Market.
The Lancers went about as far as the gate leading, into Mrs. Curran’s yard ; they then
wheeled round, and returned towards the bridge. I saw a mob rush out of the Root Market,
and pursue the Lancers up towards the bridge. There were about 10 Lancers there; I
can’t take upon myself to define the exact number ; I can’t say what the mob who pursued
the soldiers threw. I saw the Lancers turn round and charge down the quay ; two of the
Lancers went down nearly to the end of the quay ; one turned up the lane, near Mrs.
Curran’s yard. The people went down and turned up one of those lanes almost -at right
angles with the quay. The lane I speak of is below Kiely’s house. The people who had
so run, passed Kiely’s house in getting to the lane.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. I stood more than the length of the Court House on
the causeway from the bridge, from which I saw, so far as the evidence I have given, what
c curred. The death of Captain Kiely was the only occurrence connected with this
o ection I regretted.
J. Nugent Humble.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
■ cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
18th day of January 1867.
J. Nugent Humble,
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Edward Arundell, a cornet in the 12th Lancers, who being first
duly sworn, deposes and- says :
After coming over the bridge with voters between one and two o’clock, on the 29th
December last, I wheeled o the left with about eight men. They were subsequently
augmented by eight more while they were there. When the eight wheeled round they
pushed the crowd back by about 15 yards. After pushing the crowd back, the men
wheeled round, and came back towards the bridge, and while there it was then they
became augmented by about eight. I don’t know the names of the eight that augmented
them at that time while there, then the stoning was worse than ever. At that particular
time
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time my horse was very restive, being struck with a stone, and I was trying to restrain
him. When my horse was rearing, I saw one of the Lancers go down the quay, and the
rest went after him ; I followed down after them, and as I went down, stones were fluno-
from the crowd in front. Some of the crowd were at the side; some in the boats, and the
rest went in the direction of the Linney. Some went on past the Linney, and passed
Kiely’s house. As we passed the Root Market, 1 can swear to seeino- five stones flung I
did not see any flung from the river side. I stopped at the Root hfarket, and did not go
any farther; as I got parallel with the Root Market, I saw those stones flung in front of
me, although the men had passed on. When I was at the Root Market, Major Wombell
rode past me, and he said, “ Stop/’ and that is the reason I stopped there. After the Major
had passed on, Captain Orred’s troop came up. 1 saw the deceased, O’Brien as I was
cantering down; he was lying on my right; I went out of the way to avoid him. I then
turned back to look at him, and I saw two men carry him off. I saw a hat on the ground
and I saw a Lancer take it up with his lance, and fling it down ao-ain. 6 >
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. We pushed the people or. “the* first occasion beyond
the railings on the quay side. The hat I speak of was not on the quay; it was in the lane
at the Root Market. I did not give the men any orders to go down the quay ; there was no
other officer there but myself. For all I know, “Serjeant Major Woolley may have gone to
the end of the quay, and around the town. I did not see any stones thrown on the ciuav
except at the Root Market. 1 3
Edward Arundell , 12th Lancers.
Informant, is bound in the sum of 30 1 to our Sovereign Lady the Queen to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on. r
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kielv
this 18th day of January 1867. 3>
Edward Arundell, 12th Lancers.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Serjeant-Major Harry Woolley, of the 12th Lancers, who being first
duly sworn, deposes and says
I recollect the day of the election ; I was on the square on that morning. I saw
stones and a portion of a bottle flying; the portion of a bottle came from a window. I
i not see any of the military struck in the square. When we were coming in with voters
1 was ra the rear, and the stones were flying pretty thick ; this was in the square, and about
nine o clock As we were coming in and passing the Poor House, I noticed them throwing
siones out of the houses, and taking the top off of a small wall. As I got nearer to the
town, i saw a man on my left rear throw a stone and pass to my right rear behind. One
ot my men drew my attention to stones coming out of a house: I saw the stones. The
man went over, and the door was closed at once. When I next looked, I saw a man on
ms knees and hands, and he was crying out that he was killed. Immediately that man
inrew a stone, I saw a Lancer go out of the ranks after him. As we came over the bridge
with the voters, I heard an order given to keep the people back to the right and left, so as
to allow the voters to pass through. We then walked down five or ten yards past the
railings on the quay side, and the people moved back as we moved on. After getting down
t0 rej ?Vi e „ b °dy- We S oL mit) gled then with other troops; I think some of
• . troop and f H were there. While there, stones were flying from alljquarters,
on j C1 P a ^ £ U P “ om tl le quay- I was trying to dodge the stones with my head, and while
omg, observed some of the Lancers go down the quay. The people kept up pelting
nes, and as I rode down the quay, several stones came from the water side. I don’t
Know the men who rode down the quay, or what troop they belonged to. There must
e been 30 or 40 Lancers there before they went down the quay, about the upper end of
■ a , s l Jace there. Some of the people were before the Lancers as they were
° Wn W’ an( ^ les * °P ene d to the sides. When they were going down, I
• . *, orn ® ston ® s meet them ; not more than half a dozen. I saw a lot of the crowd rush
hand *vi ioot Market. I saw people on board the boais. I saw stones come from the left
nv f *t aS ^ went down the quay. I can’t say whether they came from the boats,
t r _° m * ‘ e P e( >ple. While 1 was at the Root Market, I saw no other stones thrown down
ere, except those from the direction of the Root Market.
r °ss-examined by Mr. Waters. I saw at the Root Market on the quay, Richard
i. wn ^ a j Richard Shannon, of my troop, and I also saw Seijeant Aicheson down there.
m ,nw the deceased, O’Brien, lying on the ground ; I did not see him knocked down.
tho ere T n I ay laVG ' 5Uen a ^ 0Zftn men before me then. About the time I saw Aicheson and
se have named, there must have been 20 men around in the same spot, and Captain
Vfuesne was there with the men I have named. He was standing between Browne and
UU< c 3 Shannon.
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Shannon. There must have been men among the 20 not of my troop. Sergeant Aiche3on
is not of my troop. ■ R JT.,0%.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 14th day of January 1867,
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
18th day of January 1867.
H. Woolley, s.m.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Seijeant-Major Henry Bromley, of the 12th Lancers, who being first
duly sworn, deposes and says:
I belong to the “ H ” troop, Captain Stephenson. I saw stones thrown on the square
that morning in or about nine o’clock. I saw nothing else. There were offensive expres-
sions used, “ Down with the Tories ; ” “ To hell with the horse soldiers, we don’t want
you here.” As I got over the bridge, I saw stones thrown from the Shandon side. I
also saw some of another troop go to a policeman’s rescue on the square.
Henry Bromley.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to
prosecute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of William Jordan, a Corporal in the 12th Lancers, who being
first duly sworn, deposes and 8ays :
I belong to " H ” troop, attached to “ B ” troop; I was in the square in the morning
of the 29th December last. I saw a glass bottle thrown out of a house; it struck nobody.
I saw stones thrown. I was at the bridge about two o’clock. I saw the lock of a gate
broken by a Lancer, as far as I think, it was broken with the butt end of his lance. Thev
were continually throwing stones from inside the railings. I called' a magistrate’s attention
to it, and he sent a body of police in there.
W. Jordan, Corporal.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prosecute
the above deposition when called on. 1
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 14th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Seijeant Isaac Aichesov, of the 12th Lancers, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I BEEONO to “ F ’’ troop ; I was here on duty on the 29th of last month. X was on the
square on that day; there were a good many people there at the time. It was about nine
0 clock. 1 heard a good deal of hooting and yelling, and “ Down with the Orange buggers.”
1 saw a good many stones thrown there. I clid not see any of my men struck. I
formed one of the escort that went for voters. I returned about two o’clock. As I was
coming across the bridge I saw stones thrown ; they were about three or four pounds weight
I was on the quay, and saw a good many stones flung by the people there. I was struck
with a stone by one of the people from the boat. I went down to the shed. I was after
Uaptam (Jrred. I saw peopte in the shed ; they were throwing stones out of it iust as we
came to the shed. ° J
Cross-exaipined
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Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. I saw a man lying on the quay, and he iiad been knocked
down before I went down there.
Serjeant I. A icheson.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 15th day of January 18(57.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
1 8th day of January 1867.
Serjeant I. Aicheson.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Henry Tillier, a Serjeant of the 12th Lancers, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I belong to Captain Orred’s troop. I recollect the 29fh December last, the day of the
election. L was on the square between nine arid ten on that morning. There were a great
many people there at the time ; I should say 700 or 800. I heard them say, « Down with
the Lancers; down with the Tories.” They were throwing stones, shouting and yellin°\ I
saw the bottom part of a bottle which cut my eye. It was thrown from a window on the
square. I saw Serjeant-major Hannon struck with a bottle on the square. I formed one of
the escort who went for voters. I was in the rear. I was on the bridge about half-past
one o’clock, and I saw stones thrown from right and left. The stones continued as I was
passing over the bridge. The people were hooting, yelling, and shouting, and saying,
“ Down with the Lancers.” I wheeled to the right of the bridge where I remained for a few
minutes, and then went up to the hotel. 1 saw-tones thrown from the left. There were
hundreds.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. I consider the Lancers acted with great forbearance.
H. Tillier.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 15th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition- of Thomas Hughes, a Corporal in the 12th Lancers, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I decollect the 29th of last month ; I was on the square that morning a little before
ten. _ There were a good many people there. I saw stones thrown there^ but, from the
position I was in, I can’t say that 1 saw many. I saw a stone in a man’s hand; I hit his
nand and made him drop it. I saw a man two or three files in front of me struck by the
same man in whose hand I saw the stone. It was that made me strike his hand. There
was a great deal of shouting and hallooing as we brought the voters in. I formed one of
the escort who went over the bridge with Major Wombwell; I was the leading man in the
advance guard on the right band. As I was coming to this side of the bridge, and before
we reached the iron railings, I saw stones : coming from right and left. The 'stones were
trirown before the troops divided to right and left. I was struck five or six times as we
came over the bridge ; I was struck in several parts ; my horse was struck twice, and
s umbled, and got on his knees twice. They were shouting and yelling at the bridge. I
saw heavy stones thrown from inside the railings.
Thos. Hughes.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this loth day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
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County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Edward Colbert, a Police Constable, stationed in the City of Limerick,
who, being first duly sworn, deposes and says :
I was in Dungarvan on the 29th of December last. I was with the military, and was
nearer the Court House than the bridge. 1 saw stones thrown from within the railings at
the Shandon side. As soon as the soldiers cleared the space at the end of the bridge, 1 saw
a shower of stones come from inside the railing. From what I saw, I can’t say that the
Lancers acted with unnecessary violence towards the people. 1 know nothing of what took
place on the quay side. „
Edward Colbert.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30/. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 15th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Charles deValmer, Esq., of London, who, being first duly sworn,
deposes and says :
I was in Dungarvan on the occasion of the late election ; I. was on the causeway close to
the bridge on that day between one and two o’clock. I was in Sir Nugent Humble’s
Company. I was at Abbevside as th'e j voters were passing over. I saw the Lancers
dividing at the town end of the bridge to right and left. My attention was more directed
to the section of the Lancers that divided to the quay side. The Lancers only went a
short distance down the quay not with a quick movement, and the people moved before
them; the people having gone before them, the Lancers appeared to me to be turning back.
As the Lancers appeared to me to be turning back, I saw a great many men come out of a
small enclosure and throw stones at them ; I then saw the Lancers charge back on those
people. They rushed up, as quickly as they could, those lanes and alleys on the quay.
They ran beyond Captain Kiely's house.
Cross-examined by Mr. Waters. I saw the Lancers with their lances in their hands
galloping after the people. The people were then running away and not opposing the
Lancers.
Charles dc Valmcr.
Informant is hound in the sum of 30 Z. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on. *
Taken and acknowledged before me this 17th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
Re-sworn, and acknowledged before me, on the inquest of Bartholomew Kiely, this
ISth.day of January 1867.
Charles de V aimer.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
I certify that the foregoing are true copies of the inquisition and depositions taken before
the Coroner at the inquest held in Dungarvan in the County of Waterford, in the month
of January last, upon the body of William O’Brien, killed at the . last Waterford County
Election. <
Dated this 2nd day of April 1867,
W. J. Dennehy , Clerk of the Crown,
County of Waterford.
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BABTHOLOMEW KIEL? (WATERFORD COUNT? ELECTION). 2o
COPIES of Inquisition and Depositions on the Body of
Bartholomew Kiely.
County of Waterford, to wit.
An inquisition indented and taken for our Sovereign Lady the Queen at Dun
garvan Court House, in the Parish of Dungarvan in the County of Waterford on the 18 th
day of January m the 30th year of the fteign of our Sovereign Lady Victoria bv th*
Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of
the haith, and so forth ; and in the year of our Lord 1867, before Henry Thomas Dennehy
one of the Coroners for our said Lady the Queen for the said County, on view of the bodv
of Bartholomew Kiely then and there lying dead, upon the oaths of, 3
1 . William Orr. I 6. Martin Hackett.
2. Denis McCarthy. 7. John Cleary.
3. Thomas Walsh. 8. James Walsh.
4. John Mooney. 9. Peter Walsh.
5. Thomas O’Neill. | io. Patrick Lynch.
11. Michael Kirby.
12 . Thomas Connors.
13. Peter Ahearne.
14. Edward Foley, senior.
15. Edward Foley, junior.
good and lawful men of the said County, duly chosen, who, being then and there duly
sworn and charged to inquire for our Sovereign Lady the Queen, when, how, and by what
means the said Bartholomew Kiely came to his death, do upon their oaths sav, that the
said deceased Bartholomew Kiely was feloniously, wilfully, and with malice afoiethou°-ht
murdered at his own door by a stab of a lance, by one of 16 of the 12th Lancers, who
unlawfully charged down the quay on the 29th of December 1S66 ; five of whom are named
Serjeant Major Wolley, Browne, Shannon, Aitcheson, and Hammerton.
In witness whereof, as well the said Coroner as the jurors aforesaid, have hereunto set
ana subscribed their hands and seals the day and year first above written.
1. William Orr.
2 . Denis McCarthy.
3. Thos Walsh.
4. John Mooney.
5. Thomas O’Neill.
6. Martin Hackett.
7. John Cleary.
8. Jas. Walsh.
(seal),
(seal),
(seal),
(seal ).
(seal),
(seal),
(seal),
(seal).
9. Peter Walsh. (seal).
10 . Patrick Lynch. (seal).
11. Michael Kirbv. (seal).
32. Thomas Connors. (seal).
13. Peter Ahearne. (seal).
14. Edmond Foley, senior. t,seal).
15. Edmond Foley, junior. (seal).
Henry T/ios. Dennehy, Coroner (seal).
DEPOSITIONS.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Henry Anthony, of Dungarvan, Surgeon, who, being first dtdy sworn,
deposes and says :
I attended the late Bartholomew Kiely on the 29th of December last, in one of his
stores behind his house. It was half-past one, or between that and two. He was lying
quite insensible when I saw him. He had a punctured wound on the chest over ihe right
Jung, about an inch and a-lialf above the nipple. I attended him up to his death. He
med, I believe, on the 2nd of January 1867. I made a post-mortem examination of the
body in conjunction with Dr. Hunt. The wound which I have already described on the
right side penetrated the lung to about half its depth. He died from exhaustion caused by
secondary hemorrhage, and that hemorrhage was the result of the wound I have described.
Ihe wound on Bartholomew Kiely’s chest was such a wound as would be likely inflicted
by a lance such as I have seen in Court some days ago.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian . — I was the first to see the deceased Bartholomew Kiely ;
JJr. hlynn was also in attendance on him, and Dr. Hunt, too. On hearing of the wound
being probed, I disapproved of it ; it is bad surgery, and not calculated to improve the
patient ; it may do no harm if properly done. Dr. Hunt continued in attendance up to the
death of the deceased. Dr. Hunt saw the deceased about five o’clock on Saturday evening,
. 29th December last, and called on me and appointed eight o’clock, or between that and
nine for me to visit the deceased with him. We. visited the deceased at this time, and on
visitmcr, Dr. Hunt made inquiries as to whether the deceased got stimulants, and he heard
ie had got them ; he disapproved of them, and said he would give up the case. He left
o/\A° m ^ len ‘ ®- e attended on the following day. I gave no order one way or the other
D about
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about stimulants. He did not get better after that. From beginning to end, I saw no im-
provement in the deceased except when he came out of a collapsed state. He got out of a
collapsed state about three hours after lie received the injury. Dr. Hunt told me, when he
saw the deceased, about five o’clock on Saturday evening, the 29th of December last that
lie was going on favourably. When we visited the deceased at eight o'clock on ’same
evening, Dr. Hunt discovered that the deceased had got stimulants, and I saw from the
patient that there must have been some stimulants given. The result of stimulants given
to a patient in that state would be likely to be to increase the action of the heart, and expose
him to secondary hemorrhage. In my opinion the deceased died from secondary hemor-
rhage caused by the wound. In my opinion if he never got stimulants he would die.
Henry Anthony, Surgeon.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prosecute
the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 18th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dcnnehy, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Ambrose Hunt, of Dungarvan, Surgeon, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says : —
I heard Doctor Anthony examined. I saw the wounds external and internal on the
body of the deceased Bartholomew Kiely ; he died from secondary hemorrhage, consequent
on the wound ; the wound was the primary cause of it.
Cross-examined by Mr. Julian. — I was called in about ten minutes after the wound was
received, but I did not see the deceased then ; Doctor Anthony and Doctor Flynn told me
at that time that the patient was dead. I "tB 4 consequence of that I went away; I was sent
for in about ten minutes after, and I refused to go. I did not go for an hour after, until I
got protection. When I got protection I went; I found Kiely, who was pronounced dead,
alive. Nothing that I am aware of had been done by the doctors for the deceased ; I
directed the hole to be closed by suture. It bad not been done, and there was air passing
from the lung through the wound. It was closed after the wound was probed, which I saw
done by Doctor Flynn. I objected to the probing. Three hours after I saw the patient;
I gave directions, on the wound being probed, that he was to get nothing but cold water,
or soda \vater, and was not to be allowed to speak. At my visit, in three hours after, he
was going on most favourably ; in or about eight o’clock on same night, which was about
three hours from the previous visit. I saw him again ; with the treatment I ordered for the
deceased on my first visit, and the favourable results I saw follow in three hours after,
re-action having set in in such a mild and favourable manner, 1 think it was both pos-
sible and probable the life of the deceased could have been saved, and 1 stated such to his
family at the time. On the third visit I found the patient’s pulse and respiration so much
accelerated, that I accused his friends of not following my directions, but following the
contrary, and giving stimulants. Doctor Anthony was then present; I can’t say wbat
stimulants he got. Doctor Flynn allowed, in my presence, that he had given him brandy
and opium, and some person in the room stated that he had also got beer. I refused to
continue in attendance. The patient was considerably worse, in my opinion, as tbe result
of the stimulants ; he did not get better at all after that; tbe stimulants were likely to pro-
duce the secondary hemorrhage of which he died. I believe it was the stimulants, and nothing
else caused the secondary hemorrhage. My belief is, if stimulants had not been given
secondary hemorrhage would not have set in. 1 will not swear that secondary hemorrhage
would not have set in if stimulants had not been given. In my opinion the wound was not
mortal. I believe if secondary hemorrhage had not occurred, there was no reason why he
should not have lived. The protection I wanted was from the people.
Ambrose Hunt, l. e. c. d. s.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 18th day of January, 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy , Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of Michael Flynn, of Dungarvan, a Surgeon, who being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I attended the deceased, Bartholomew Kiely, in about a quarter of an hour after he
received the wound on the 29th December last. He was in charge of Doctor Anthony
when. I saw. him first. He was in collapse, and Doctor Anthony pronounced him dead or
dying.
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dyino - . I went for my instruments to examine the nature of the wound. In my opinion
the wound was a mortal one. I probed the wound most carefully and most certainly did
no injury to him by doing so. I wanted to see if it was more than a flesh wound ; I saw
the deceased at the post mortem; he died from secondary hemorrhage from the effects
of the wound in the lung. I don’t think if he got all the stimulants in town that they
would do him any harm or good, as I considered from the first that the man was mortally
wounded.
Michael Flynn , Surgeon.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 1. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me this 18th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Denneky, Coroner.
County of Waterford, to wit.
The Deposition of William Bow seman, of Stradbally a Schoolmaster, who, being first duly
sworn, deposes and says :
I was in Dungarvan on the day of election the 29th December last ; I was in Captain
Kiely’s house from about half-past 11 till about half-past one; I was speaking to Captain
Kiely for a short time. The room I was in was upstairs and was what I consider to be the
drawing-room. Shortly before half past one, I saw over a 1 00 people about the door of
Captain Kiely’s house. They were making a noise and disturbance, and asking for some-
body to be turned out of Captain Kiely’s premises ; Captain Kiely was amongst them. He
apparently refused them ; I was in the window and Captain Kiely was under me ; I can’t
say whether he went in or not, or where he went. He was facing his own door at the time.
They asked two or three times “ Will you put him out?” Mr. Kiely’s place was a place for
Captain Talbot’s voters to meet. It was after they called for this person to be turned out
that they threw a stone ; I was waiting foi^ some friends of iny own. I saw the voters
coming across the bridge, and it was immediately after I saw the Lancers coming down
the Quay. I will not say there were not 200 in the crowd outside Captain Kiely’s house.
Wm. Bowesman.
Informant is bound in the sum of 30 l. to our Sovereign Lady the Queen, to prose-
cute the above deposition when called on.
Taken and acknowledged before me, this 18th day of January 1867.
Henry Thos. Dennehy, Coroner.
I certify that the foregoing are true copies of the inquisition and depositions taken befor®
the coroner at the inquest held in Dungarvan in the County ol Waterford, in the month of
January last, upon the body of Bartholomew Kiely, killed at the last Waterford County
Election.
Dated this 2nd day of April 1867.
W. J. Dennehy , Clerk of the Crown,
County of Waterford.
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WATERFORD COUNTY ELECTION.
COPY of the Depositions taken before the
Coroner at the Inquests held at Dungarvan,
in the Month of January last, on the Bodies
of William O’Brien and Bartholomew Kiely,
killed at the last Waterford Countv
Election.
(Mr. Serjeant Barry.)
Ordered, by 'the House of Commons, to be Printed,
5 April 1 867.
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Under 4 oz.
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